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The process works frankly to be relevant as a campaign. you have this unique challenge. if you don't make the next debate stage, it's hard for you to keep going in a campaign i would assume, and yet you just said you need time. it seems as if the dnc process isn't giving you that opportunity. is that fair to say? >> well, yeah, chuck. if everybody goes to stevebullock.com, it gets a lot easier. but i only got in this race ten weeks ago because i had a job to do with my legislature still meeting. i needed to make sure we could secure health care for a hundred thousand montanans. but i do think ...

Mates into a trading hit environment nobody looks good. i would say be aggressive if you are attacked. demand your time to respond. but do not try and shout over everybody because it doesn't look good. >> you know, you want dsh viewers to like you. if you are no the one of the top tier most of the people watching don't even know hue are. may be seeing you for the first or second time. if you continually interrupt they think you are rude. i think that was a problem for some candidates last time. on the other hand, erick swalwell told me he got in four minutes and 45 seconds last time. but who i...

Favorite show host and said that -- he started again calling biden sleepy joe, using mueller against biden. this is the reason that biden has to be active and engaged. i mean, he just -- as i said earlier he's in a strong position, but he has to show that he is up to this fight. and this debate is important in that regard. and as to whether they're going to focus on him or trump, there are two thirds of the people on that stage who probably in both debates combined probably won't be there in september because of debate rules. there is a premium to create moments in that debate. and the way you...

With their debate rules. i'm going about my campaign, t meeting voters on the ground. that's why i'm in new hampshire. >> reporter: the next debate is scheduled at the end of july in michigan. plenty of time between now and then. eric: mark, thanks. arthel: this week's debate spotlighted the democratic party's divide on health care reform. here's a moment from wednesday night. >> who here would abolish their private health insurance in favor of a government-run plan. just a show of hands to start off with. arthel: and making headlines on night two, this question on health care and immigration....

Best nominee to take on trump it with their debate rules. i'm going about my campaign on the ground that's why i'm in new hampshire. i got this late. it's not lost on voters, the veteran and won from the state where trump won. neil: and i think you said wilson, i apologize for that. and i wonder what you think about the choosing process and criteria, i don't know what it will be in future debates, what do you think about how they go about this? >> well, again, i'm not bothering to worry about this, neil. we've hit the polling criteria in several polls and some reason the ndnc decided not to co...