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Have moderatormoderators. i'm not saying defend donald trump but i would like to see what's it like when the moderators aren't making it all about one candidate. >> aren't we all obsessed with donald trump. >> no, my point is when we're doing a debate there's a job you have to do and it's not to obsess about donald trump. it's to get candidates to give their views and debate views on certain issues. you want to hear and flush out issues. they as in cnn were obsessed with donald trump. >> they're asking questions and finally when they ask people other questions it's about donald trump and then ...