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The opposite, which is he doesn't need to prove his progressive bona fides. you heard pete buttigieg say that's not enough. if we do that, we will lose. >> that's such a key sort of tension point and debating point, whether or not voters i think are going to articulate it or it's something that's kind of in their bones. do we want to go with somebody who we know keeps us calm or do we want to shake things up. i think draum wasn't exactly the safe choice. >> no. i think vice president biden, part of the reason he wasn't in california is he doesn't think he needs to do what everyone else is doin...

Debating point. the fact is there were budgetary implications to daca, i mean, if you're going to deport 800,000 people that's going to cost money. you shut down the government in 2013, you at large republicans because you didn't like obamacare, you wanted a shut down the government in 2015 because you didn't like planned parenthood, they are willing to shutdown the government because they want a solution to daca, you can say, well, one thing is what's in the bill and one thing that's not in the bill, both you then and them now are willing to shut down the government because they support or op...

Point significant difference. >> i think a debating point the fact is, that they are a budgery implications to dhaka if you are going to deport 800,000 people going to cost money, you shut down the government, in 2013, you -- republicans because you didn't like obamacare you wanted to shut down government again in 2015, case didn't like planned parenthood they are willing to shut down want solution to dhaka you can say one thing in the bill one thing what is not in in the bill the point is both i then and them now are kwilg to shut down, the government, because they support or oppose a policy,...

Debating point. the fact is there were budgetary implications to daca, i mean, if you're going to deport 800,000 people that's going to cost money. you shut down the government in 2013, you at large republicans because you didn't like obamacare, you wanted a shut down the government in 2015 because you didn't like planned parenthood, they are willing to shutdown the government because they want a solution to daca, you can say, well, one thing is what's in the bill and one thing that's not in the bill, both you then and them now are willing to shut down the government because they support or op...

Our job here isn't to score debating points. our job, mr. zoran, is to save the peace. if you are ready to try, we are. >> and so they saved the peace. russia removed those missiles from cuba. our job here is not to score debating points, said adlai stevenson. every serious ambassador to the united nations has always known that. what was donald trump trying to do today by calling the leader of north korea rocket man? that is the trump version of scoring a debating point. you saw it in the republican presidential debates when he called his opponents names. that's how some children think you win...