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Theft, it would make it much harder for china to put its fist down and say to hong kong, don't extradite him. we've made it too easy for the chinese government. we've made it difficult for the hong kong government to turn him over. and we are playing into the hands of snowden. >> so bob baer, let's say you're right and that -- that he's in the hands of china and they're not going to hand him over until they have everything they want from him, what else are they going to get that they don't already have? what were top-secret information do you think he can reveal? >> well, if he has some defect...

Doesn't want to land because it thinks it's not safe. it's told to veer off to the right here. here's what happens then. just behind it another jet comes, a delta 747. it encounters the same problem. so the tower tells this pilot instead to go to the left so that it won't interfere with the plane that went this way. that is key. when that happened, it ended up being pointed right at a shuttle that is taking off from laguardia airport here, that is what put these planes on to a collision course flying the exact same area. erin? >> when you say collision course, they -- they truly were. at the c...

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