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18 years. they're not trying to communicate with me. they belief that by holding their ground they can be re-elected in the 70% districts. republicans maintain the majority in the house of representatives. that's the end game. >> richard. i've want to ask you, you wreot a book about obama white house. nancy pelosi was asked if the president would raise a debt ceiling and backed away from answering fully. do you think he is prepared to risk impeachment or threat of impeachment and raise the debt ceiling. do you think he's that convicted about this? >> no. i've don't think he will. i think they ...

They belief that by holding their ground they can be re-elected in the 70% districts. republicans maintain the majority in the house of representatives. that's the end game. >> richard. i've want to ask you, you wrote a book about obama white house. nancy pelosi was asked if the president would raise a debt ceiling and backed away from answering fully. do you think he is prepared to risk impeachment or threat of impeachment and raise the debt ceiling. do you think he's that convicted about this? >> no. i've don't think he will. i think they have a clear legal reading on this. he does not curre...

30%. right now this is a spin war. it's clear the republicans were the ones who walked away. >> what are the expectations, though, there in washington in terms of how this plays out, how this is going to end? >> well, the one thing is pretty clear that the grand bargain, this very big deal, is the thinking that's dead. right now it all becomes about trying to raise the debt limit and how that gets done. it could be a couple of ways. one, the white house and congressional republicans could just almost agree to a type of just spending cuts only just to be able to get the debt ceiling raised thro...