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Legislation. even though they are calling for some $4 trillion range which is previous debt commissions has recommended there is no legislation to go along with that. it's hard to say right now if there is any genuine effort of dealing with it this year. it looks like with the election coming up so quickly and with people focused on millionaire is your tax 1st other ways of paying for the payroll tax cut, the debt has sort of gotten lost in the conversation. there is not really a moment that lawmakers will seize in order to tackle it. >> shannon: we'll see if $1.2 trillion goes through. great ...

consequences if the panel failed to decrease the debit. he's one of most popular bloggers in cyber-space. can he still call himself a conservative? our conversation with andrew sullivan. >> especially during the iraq war to have made such a massive blunder and be forced to hold myself to account for it and have my readers do so and stick with me, that was a very maturing experience. >> plus, the "huffington post" expands to canada. so what's up with the canadian woman who's running it, eh? we'll meet her. i'm howard kurtz, and this is "reliable sources." in an increasingly shrill...

For the united states. and before, you know, i start saying this makes sense or that makes sense, i want to get a better picture of what the options are. >> reporter: the leader of the 18-member debt commissions, ten democrats and eight republicans drawn from congress and the private sector will help sort the options out, including cuts to big ticket items like social security, medicare or medicaid. it has until november 1. it won't be easy. >> there will be no work unless we vote for it. a lot of republicans will vote yes or no and others vote yes or no. >> some think it's a certain vote for ...

They are not being represented and the kinds of debt to follow-up on the president's announcement, the kind of debt that washington it is racking up, and inability of washington to take control of things washington is supposed to be in charge of, leads people to feel helpless, i think frustrated, out of the system and really wanting to do something, feeling like they are not recommended. bill: we are watching this cpac conference, the conservative conference in washington, d.c., and, as we watch that, we will wait for the ideas that come out of here and whether or not it is just speeches or mo...

>> can i tell you, this is like the -- >> it's a committee. >> it's a committee, if they call it a panel -- whatever. the point is, it's a false ending to a movie. you know, in fatal attraction when you thought glenn close was dead and she comes out of the tub. this is the panel -- >> here's what i am thinking. >> no, she's back. >> this panel -- why set up the triggers? it's like it's assuming they won't be able to do their job. they are set up to fail. why have -- >> they should. >> we have had 17 debt commissions over the last 30 years. they have all deadlocked or not produced anything, whi...