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As we always talk about a v.p. pick. it's about the message romney wants to send, not only how he will govern, which is important, but about how he wants to lead and what that vision is. so i think this paves the way leading up to the convention speech as well of mitt romney being very specific about what he thinks the turn-around plan is for america and for the american economy. and in paul ryan, he has a top surrogate now who is not only going to draw some real bold distinctions with president obama, but who is a big strategic thinker about the budget, about the deficit, and about the debt f...

Spending money. the trick is going to be not forget what happens when you borrow too much to finance a life style you can't afford. >> bill, good or bad. >> i share steve's optimism. but not polyanaon debt. this is what is happening. only way to cure a hang over from debt fuel would spending is more of the same. you understand the nation is in the hole. >> dennis, is this good or bad. >> i rather be polyanathan patrionizing . credit card debt going up is a bunch of smart people deciding rank and file americans aren't smart enough to know when to stop buying. americans cut back when crisis came...