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The military and cross the river, the last obstacle, moscow is wide open, the doors are wide open. who knows what the russian military is going to do with putin right now. and i think that's what he's trying to do. i don't think we're into negotiation phase anymore. you know, years ago, a guy named john boyd createded ood observe orient, act. prigozhin is at the a, he's at the act. i think he's inside the decision cycle and the reason why that's important because if he's inside their decision cycle, he's making moves that they cannot counter because when you get to moscow, moscow doesn't have ...

Tough. they have lost the momentum. how important and what is known as warfare operational tempo and do the ukrainians have that now especially with winter months approaching. >> tempo is very important. what you seek to do is getting inside of the enemies decision cycle. every time they react to you they are reacting to old information that is irrelevant. the ukrainians have certainly done this in the north. they have a different style of commanding like the united states and other western countries where they delegate down. the russians are slower to respond because they were more centralize...

In ukraine, then who knows what will happen next? we've seen nato bolstering its forces in the baltic states and poland and elsewhere. i think that's a very sensible thing to do. what i would say is that at some point, ukraine needs to stop having to react to what the russians are doing and take the initiative. and if i was advising president zelenskyy and the ukrainian military -- and bear in mind i'm only a lowly retired lieutenant colonel, i'd be saying to him if you've got the means, why don't you shift onto the front foot and launch a strategic offensive, possibly even towards crimea, and...

That. he has about 130,000 to 150,000, to occupy that would take close to about 600 to 800,000 forces when you do your counter insurgency calculus. it doesn't happen. >> hmm. nick, one of the things that jake sullivan just said is that there will be severe economic sanctions from the u.s. and nato partners if vladimir putin decides to do this. we've talked about the freezing of the assets of the oligarchs. what else could be done? >> the oligarchs, their families and the people close to president putin, i mean clearly we're hearing to get into president putin's decision cycle and it is very cr...

He has always wanted to try and get inside his opponent's decision cycle. and the minute he saw, over the last few days, some little green shuts of, at least a bit of communication in turkey -- and we want to give credit to the turks for moving the negotiation along. the minute putin saw a little tiny bit of is let's go back and forth, he's going to throw cold water on it. he knows his plan a a has failed. he's not going to be able to sweep across the nation of ukraine and decapitate zelenskyy. he's thinking ahead a couple of moves to plan b, which i suspect is going to be to truly consolidate...