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And then there's the 54% who were in favor of just impeachment and not removal. what's so interesting about that is those people recognizing there is a difference, that these are two different decision levels with different thresholds of proof. >> and, in fact, in american history there has never, ever been a president who was impeached in the house and removed by the senate. it has never happened. and so to know that -- people are talking about this will be a failed impeachment effort if the senate acquits, the only thing we've ever had in american history is the house impeaching a president....

Impeachment and not removal. what's so interesting about that is those people recognizing there is a difference, that these are two different decision levels with different thresholds of proof. >> and, in fact, in american history there has never ever been a president who was impeached in the house and removed by the senate. it has never happened. and so to know that -- people are talking about this will be a failed impeachment effort if the senate acquits, the only thing we've had in american history is the house impeaching a president. a senate has never removed. i think the public is much m...