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It's not called treason. so let's just talk about it for what it really is. let's not triple guess people and do the whole monday morning quarterback thing. i'm going to tell you something, people in certain high stress decision making situations, they sometimes make a mistake. >> guess what else, sometimes they lie. i've lied lots of times in my life. >> when have you lied? >> after the fact, trust me -- >> when have you lied? when have you lied? >> anthony, months later when they're on air force one coming home from the g-20 meeting and they craft a story saying meeting was about adopting ru...

Patriot, i would respect our federal government and i would have contacted the fbi. >> don't be a monday morning quarterback. >> i'm not being a monday morning quarterback. >> don't be. at the end of the day, we all say we're going to do certain things and certain other things happen. you brought up my interview. let's talk about my interview. i shouldn't have talked to somebody whose family knew my family for 50 years in a regular -- excuse me -- colloquial way. it was my mistake. i got fired for it. i own it. if he had a meeting he shouldn't have had, it is a mistake, not treason. let's talk...