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he also says he reported it. in the same e-mail he said he had discussions with police and with the official at the university in charge of police. listen to mcqueary now, this is what he told a cbs news reporter. >> you have any idea when you think you might be ready to talk? >> this process has to play out. i just don't have anything else to say. >> okay. then, just one last thing. just describe your emotions right now. >> all over the place. just kind of, shaken. >> crazy. >> crazy. >> you said, what -- >> like a snow globe. >> let me bring in andrew mcgill, he's one of the frt re...

Not going to prosecute you for war crimes, and then he goes back and says to gadhafi, hey, look, this is what's going on, and i think this is a deal you may want to take. so there's a possibility, though i think they probably are going to denounce him as a traitor. >> to your point, peter, if a military commander or even if one of his sons were to defect and you have this image of gadhafi standing alone in a room, how does he then control any forces he may have left on the ground? what happens then? is he stubborn? does he leave? does he stay? >> remember, like i want before, i used the word "...