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shot at home was on alex, so a lot of people couldn't see -- your blushing, as much as they deserved to see it. >> all i could do in that moment, while you are staring at me because you know me well enough to do that, is like, could i have done this in such a way that i precluded this from happening? could i have spoken the beginning of this interview and this discussion in such a manner, that there's no way that alex could maneuver this into talking about me? and i just was sitting there going, do it again, maddow, fix it, go back in time. meanwhile, you had me trapped in your gaze....

>> before i send boxes, i have to take all of my things out. these boxes were interspersed with all sorts of things, golf shorts, clothing, shoes. there were many things. >> iran war plans? >> not that i know of. not that i know of. >> he's no longer claiming he could and did declassify everything. then eight days later, cnn obtained the audio of the discussion, and we could all hear him say that these documents were secret. later that day came his next shifting line of defense that there was no classified document on his desk when he was talking to that group of people, that it wasn't real. q...

Political disaster. the democrats would not be happy about that. but i say to you guys, what is the price of truth? we've had so many people die from this virus, we've had that many more people lose their livelihood to this virus. it completely shook the next generation of youth and their ability to learn. haven't we paid for truth? rachel: we deserve truth. the most radical thing you can do is tell the truth these days, and what i'm hoping is this new republican majority in the house will continue to press and uncover everything, reveal it all. i want to declassify everything. not just, you k...

Just lying, i'm not sure. ron vitello, thanks for joining us. pete: thank you, ron. >> thank you. rachel:s the incredible to think, as you said, 20,000 kids, we know percentage, somewhere upwards of 25% of the girls who come over, women and children, are raped -- pete: horrific. rachel: it's just, and then lost in child sex trafficking rings. pete: and now they say it's unsustainable, so they're trying to put a band-aid on the gaping wound? rachel: we opened the show kind of talking about -- president now we're going to detain migrant illegals, we're going to open one pipeline, is people -- ar...

Even challenging that anymore. >> does anyone challenge a sitting president has a right to declassify? >> no. >> that the a moot issue because we're talking about a former president here. he says that kash patel witnessed him declassifying and others did too. but the lawyers, they're not making that case in court, are they? >> no. because they didn't execute the process. say hypothetically the president in the presence of kash patel and a few other people did say i want to declassify everything. great. he can say that. if nobody executed that, told the agency original nating the information th...