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They are. we know there are 16 documents that could be multiple pages. here's what's most important about this story. it goes to donald trump's intent. what did he know? did he know what he was doing is wrong. you may say of course obviously, but you have to prove it as a prosecutor. what this proves is that the white house was formally told 16 times during trump's presidency, hey f yif you're going to declassify records, this is how you do it. he did not do any of those things. there's no record he did any of that regarding the mar-a-lago documents, hence he knew they were classified. >> so a...

Because of it by president trump when he had the authority to declassify records, they would not have had those carpet sheets on. that alone, i am not a lawyer, -- >> one can't help but not be giddy about this, but that is the most outrageous, ludicrous excuse, just by thinking about it? >> don, for four years, donald j trump tried to find ways to lie, to get his way. he lied, he lied, he lied. he has now discovered that there is a point at which lies have consequences. for four years, they did not really. he is now a former president, and the rules are different for former presidents than fou...

President's sole discretion to declassify records. do you think the doj will have a problem saying these were classified if donald trump said they aren't because i said so. >> in a vacuum the president of the united states is the ultimate arbitrator with respect to declassified documents numbers no dispute from the top down the president does hold that inparent power. but there is generally speaking with a process with respect to declassifying those documents. if we look at that note owe, when documents are declassified they basically are then reverted back. those folders in your viewing audie...

President's sole discretion to declassify records. do you think the doj will have a problem saying these were classified if donald trump said they aren't because i said so. >> in a vacuum the president of the united states is the ultimate arbitrator with respect to declassified documents numbers no dispute from the top down the president does hold that inparent power. but there is generally speaking with a process with respect to declassifying those documents. if we look at that note owe, when documents are declassified they basically are then reverted back. those folders in your viewing audie...

President's sole discretion to declassify records. do you think the doj will have a problem saying these were classified if donald trump said they aren't because i said so. >> in a vacuum the president of the united states is the ultimate arbitrator with respect to declassified documents numbers no dispute from the top down the president does hold that inparent power. but there is generally speaking with a process with respect to declassifying those documents. if we look at that note owe, when documents are declassified they basically are then reverted back. those folders in your viewing audie...