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Secured? where were they before that year before they made their way into this office? i would remind people these were top secret intelligence memos about ukraine, iran, around the united kingdom. first of all, the former vice-presidents were not authorized to possess those and can't declassify them. he is dealing with these highly sensitive documents. apparently, for six years, they have been stored in some closet. it goes back to, like you mentioned earlier, who brought them earlier? who saw them? who had access to them? who was involved in conversations about those documents and did they h...

You would be more concerned about a potential leak to the media than the potential leak to classified and top secret documents. it occurs to me if you're talk about a dni assessment of what could compromise our national security, is the judge saying she wants to have the proof as opposed to the probable cause and the investigation at this point in time? >> she's sort of saying, you know, look, i'm not just going to take the government's word for it that these documents are classified, that there has been, you know -- the trump team has put forward the notion that donald trump can declassify do...

Forever and he can't declassify them. and if he were to say, i declassified it, that is not necessarily a defense to those crimes which have nothing to do with whether it is classified or declassified. they prove impropering handling government documents. this is not taking a stapler from your old employer or a stack of the post-it notes, we're dealing with the nation's most sensitive secrets and apparently volumes of them. so his only defense is that i was negligent or it was an accident and negligent and accident could still get you in trouble under these statutes. >> and the question has to...

The top secret level. stephanie tkpwgrisham is here t talk about this. she is author of "i'll take your questions now." what did you make of this report, and tell us how this is how he handled documents when you were at the white house? >> you know, i wasn't surprised when i saw the report. i think what's important is this is another example of a white house and an administration that we had no rules. we followed no rules. obviously, with this, i do think it should be looked into. but there's going to be a lot that goes into it. they may have been marked top secret but had the president declas...

The forms. we would have to know the question it was asking for because it doesn't seem to be a conflict of interest. >> because she was working at fusion gps, the firm tied to the dossier, which christopher steele was doing all the digging on the dossier for. if the president doesn't -- i mean, wi would he then, chan, declassify them. you're saying this is a political maneuver if it happens. if it doesn't look good for him, why would he do it? >> i think he has his own notion of what looks good for him. i think he wants to -- he's been saying publicly that he's going to do the big reveal. thi...