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What do you make of it? >> well, what i make of it is there is probably some justifiable outrage. if you're there, you're in charge of the investigation -- now, certainly, the malaysian investigation is not a model so far, although we don't know everything, but if you're there trying to do the investigation and then rolls royce and boeing are there with you and you get news from the "wall street journal," you know, a very major news source, that their information is different than what the parties to the investigation, rolls royce and boeing, are telling you, i would imagine you'd get more tha...

Try to speculate or until it's verified fact, it really doesn't mean much to you, unless you're looking at expanding that model. >> so, how far can you go based on what we know? >> basically what i would say at this point is if the intent was to mask that aircraft, which it appears to me that there is -- some intent had been made to mask the aircraft, to turn off the transponders. i don't think it's likely there was a failure on board the aircraft that would cause those transponders to go out. >> because mary schiavo thinks it's more likely that it was an event as opposed to intentional thing,...

You speak to? >> reporter: pistorius was expressionly as they talked about the missing pieces from the bullet-riddled bathroom door, the door pistorius broke down with a cricket bat to reach his girlfriend after shooting her several times. >> for you to have stated under oath that nowhere that any of those exhibits appeared in sab-13. it can only mean one thing, that it was checked and it could not be found there. >> during the conversations i had, i could not determine where it was. >> reporter: pistorius had told investigators he put on his prosthetic legs before taking down the door. >> i'm...

If that is accurate, what would that suggest to you? >> well, if the transponder is off, it can suggest a number of things happening. it could suggest a security problem in the cockpit, it can suggest a catastrophic electrical failure. there has been a history of cockpit fires and smokey conditions in this aircraft. and it could suggest that the pilot actually intentionally shut it off themselves. >> but the four hours, specifically, that it would be flying four hours, and we now know that the u.s. counterterrorism officials are looking into the possibility with this new knowledge that someone...

As relates to the second black box they're looking for, the flight data recorder which looks similar to the first one, this is 1300 pieces of data on that fdr, altitude and speed, vertical acceleration heading, pitch, roll all of the parameters, flight parameters engine performance that tell us what was going on in the plane as well as whether there was any sort of decompression event. >> captain cox, let me bring you in. looking at the debris field, hearing the description of pieces being in some cases smaller than a small car there, again, we are waiting to hear more information. but the fac...