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Draconian measures and mask mandates and people like to tout california has 34% higher deaths associated with covid but what they don't account for that florida has much older, not, you, david, much older population than california. when you do the age adjustment california and florida both two under the national average or covid deaths and by the way, california and florida are tied, therefore, mask mandates have no benefit, they don't show decrease transmission or deaths, there's no place in december 2020 for those mandates. tammy: it's been long enough, david, to where we have the numbers, ...

We don't do that many randomized trials. during the pandemic, it would have been knowingly masking some people, not masking others and seeing what happens. public health experts won't do that because they have masking will have benefit. what did you find in places around the country where they were using masks and you compare them to where there were no mask mandates and you find a distinctive difference. that is a way of looking at this more globally. there was a huge randomized clinical trial. 350,000 people that showed masks, particularly surgical masks, did decrease transmission. so when h...

We were got it as well. so, you know, it's just an unfortunate thing. i think i thought i was in vincible because of the vaccine and i want folks to know you're not. you've got to wear your masks. you've got to go where people are vaccinated and you have to be safe. and we're still not out of the woods yet. >> sophia, what a great message that you're sending to everyone watching. dr. blackstock, let me bring you into this and talk about another aspect of the pandemic, and that is the impact on children. you wrote an op-ed in the "washington post" with the two words, no parent of a sick child s...

Because kids had been at home wearing mask, but this summer it has increased significantly. >> so you say we need policies that support nonpharmaceutical interventions to decrease transmission. what does that mean? >> absolutely. i think that the administration has done a strong job in terms of the vaccine rollout. but we cannot use a vaccine only strategy at this point and that is what is being put forth. we know that masks are very effective in break convenienting the spread of coronavirus so we need federal, state and local mask mandates. we need vaccine mandates as well. and by businesses ...