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That they're too much political interference with the justice process. >> laws are not going to get rid of corruption. we are trying to fight human nature and saying if we just do this we will end this. we are talking about $3.5 trillion being allocated every year. i don't care what you do how big the laws are, people will try to get around them to break them to get after that money. we're talking about symptoms, no the problem. >> it's like steve, what steve was saying about the communist comply niece they're always having these corruption crack downs year after year not realizing it's the sy...

Nuclear bomb to an inter continental ballistic missile and that's why you can't ignore these people. number two, during the cold war there was something called hutly assured destruction, that meant you could count on the rash nalt of your enemies. the soviets did not want to commit suicide. you can't count on that with these iranians. >> bruce, the acronym for mutual assured destruction is is mad. do we really want to go back to a pad foreign policy on nuks? >> no but when you talk about things being ignored, i think what's being ignored is this letter. i mean, the letter has 47 senators on it...

There's something called network solutions.com. you type in the url and look at what you get, you get all kinds of information about who set up the site, when, where, et cetera. >> i think this is a very different case than sort of when we talk about a physical war where we say why don't we bomb the railroad tracks or why don't we interrupt their activity. in this case as offensive as it is to our western sense iblts i'm with bill on this. i think we keep it up. gives us an insight as to what they're thinking, we can track people. there's lots of reasons to be wanting to keep things abovegroun...

Capital with all those things around it now as they try to fix it up i'm worried about whether they can do this. they're trying though. should we support the try? >> i think you should support the try. i think that the justice department needs to get serious and unleash their army of lawyers and redirect those lawyers away from harassing businesses and banks who are treated like a line item in the doj's budget with all the settlement is money they're getting out of them. shrink the government, but any government you're going to have is going to have corruption in it and it needs to be stopped....

>> steve, the point -- the saudi arraign yans have already talked about that in fact, the foreign intelligence chief of saudi arabia, i quote him as saying this is to preserve our regional security. it requires that we work to create a real balance of forces and to be ready for any possibility in relation to the iranian nuclear file. so clearly the saudis are reacting to what they feel fear is going to be a bad deal. >> when you let iran raise in the middle east we're going to get this deadly nuclear arms possible holocaust, the saudis are developing a bomb, egypt has made a deal with russia a...