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Between toughness and a toxic environment? >> well, toxic environments don't retain talented successful people. amazon is loaded with talented and successful people. although their turnover as been cited as high, that's a characteristic of high-performance companies. >> and not to mention, amazon has some success going for it, when you look at the numbers themselves. they have recently eclipsed walmart in terms of market valuation and they are on track to expand to 50,000 employees in the next three years or so. so they must be doing something right. >> the company didn't exist 20 years ago. t...

Systemic or abuse or just a single issue. "the new york times" says, look, we interviewed 100 current and former employees. it's not an isolated incident kind of scenario. that's what "the new york times" are saying. >> there were, in all fairness, employees who deefended amazon that there is a motivation to be the best of the best and to some degree you work so hard but at the end you are rewarded. >> that's right. and i know jeff bezos is saying it's not the amazon that he had sought to create. >> yes. he issued a statement saying, "the times claims that our intentional approach is to create...

Allegations? >> that amazon pushed out workers who took time off for medical reasons like miscarri e miscarriages. that is really awful. amazon is known for having a tough culture. as part of its very public principles, it says frugality is a value that it really is high on the list of things that bezos wants to instill in employees. that's not a surprise, that he operates things on a very tight margin. this is a company that really doesn't have profits. some quarters it doesn't report profits. it's really emblematic of how tough it is to operate in silicon valley and, more specifically, e-com...

>> lots of months to figure it all out. maeve reston and dave chalian, thank you. not your typical day on jury duty. donald trump is waiting in court to see if he'll be picked for a jury. but it's his stance on immigration that is once again making big headlines. trump saying he plans to throw out the 14th amendment and end birthright citizenship. we'll discuss that. also, amazon firing back. the head of the retail giant responding to a scathing "new york times" article. how the company is responding. plus, should kids get a trophy for just participating even if they don't win? an nfl pl...

Foreseeable future. they have employed a number of committed people but not all of whom are suited for their business. and we're hearing some complaints which may or may not be grounded in facts that are certainly not, in my view, indicative of the company's culture. >> let me play devil's advocate. we've recently talked about netflix giving unlimited parental leave, for example. and that amazon doesn't give any paid leave, at least to fathers. there does seem to be a conflicting nature of companies and this round of the retail round, the tech world, and netflix is also a thriving company. >> ...