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Bush, the problem with that formulation is that he didn't know what he didn't know. george w. was a profoundly incurious guy. he was almost proud of his lack of curiosity. so he couldn't balance and evaluate the expertise that was thrown at him by those people that he had around him. that was the fundamental -- that was the fundamental flaw of george w. bush's presidency. i know jeb also. and i think jeb is not that kind of guy. i think jeb is much more on the -- on the muscle to use a horse racing term. >> he knows what he knows. >> he knows what he knows. >> education. >> yeah. and he is cur...

Horse racing term. >> he knows what he knows. >> he knows what he knows. >> education. >> yeah. and he is curious. and he's broad gauged. i'll tell you what, if mario -- if marco rubio does not run, jeb almost has to run. because he's the only other major figure in the party who can reach out to hispanics. >> wouldn't it be a sad thing to recycle a bush? for the republican party, the one silver lining of last year, we were told, was that they had such a deep bench. whether it was chris christie or paul ryan or marco rubio or rand paul. to recycle a bush seems like a backwards losing -- >> all ...

We've lost, you know, people before. what i'm worried about, i'll tell you, this is maybe apropos of nothing, but washington is a strange town. right now, right in the immediate aftermath, we have lots of people talking about what a tragedy, what a great guy, but, you know, washington it doesn't take long for them to get the knives out, so i give it about a week before some of those people who are standing around talking about what a great american hero will be perfectly willing to take shots at him. and i think what we need to do instead is focus on some of these other issues. you're absolute...

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