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Qualified and you end up with dick cheney. do you somewhere during the time you've thought about that, that's 12 years ago, do you think during the past 12 years he thought, wait a minute, maybe that was a fix? >> i wonder. when he gave the interview last week -- >> the angler. >> he said again and again he's comfortable who he is, he has no regrets, but the bottom line here, as cordial as the relationship may be, which i think does mean frosty, no matter how much bush distances himself from dick cheney, the two will forever share a co-byline on the iraq war and other misdeeds. whatever's happ...

We're back. it's no secret that george w. bush and dick cheney had a strained relationship during w.'s second term. especially after bush filed cheney's long secretary of defe. now on the eve of the bush library opening, their relationship is still frosty. "it's been cordial but he lives in washington and we live in dallas. and i don't see many of the people i worked with much and it's kind of sad." david corn from "mother jones" and wasn't slater. wayne, is the phone system broken down there in dallas? >> he's never heard of skype. >> is there a real technical reason that you live in texas? i...

Wasn't doing our job for us and yet he died as a soldier on the field? your thoughts, wayne, because you brought it up. i don't know much about this relationship. why is he keeping a secret, what cheney told him to do? >> part of the key here is to look at it from cheney's point of view and bush's point of view. cheney believes it and george bush, what he saw at the end of his eighth year tenure who is elbowing him saying come on, the law be damned, let's give this guy a pardon, it was exactly the kind of thing that bush himself found repulsive in the case of other presidents, including bill c...

Horse racing term. >> he knows what he knows. >> he knows what he knows. >> education. >> yeah. and he is curious. and he's broad gauged. i'll tell you what, if mario -- if marco rubio does not run, jeb almost has to run. because he's the only other major figure in the party who can reach out to hispanics. >> wouldn't it be a sad thing to recycle a bush? for the republican party, the one silver lining of last year, we were told, was that they had such a deep bench. whether it was chris christie or paul ryan or marco rubio or rand paul. to recycle a bush seems like a backwards losing -- >> all ...

Paul. to recycle a bush seems like a backwards losing -- >> all i want them to do is run somebody i can imagine voting for. anyway, thank you very much, howard fineman. thank you, joan walsh. up next, on the eve of the opening of the george w. bush presidential library, we're going to be down there tomorrow, he says his relationship with dick cheney is cordial. what do you see in that? what a strange thing to say about a guy you worked with for eight years. cordial? what went on between these two. this is "hardball," the place for politics. see, i figured low testosterone would decrease my s...