qualified and you end up with dick cheney. do you somewhere during the time you've thought about that, that's 12 years ago, do you think during the past 12 years he thought, wait a minute, maybe that was a fix? >> i wonder. when he gave the interview last week -- >> the angler. >> he said again and again he's comfortable who he is, he has no regrets, but the bottom line here, as cordial as the relationship may be, which i think does mean frosty, no matter how much bush distances himself from dick cheney, the two will forever share a co-byline on the iraq war and other misdeeds. whatever's happening with him now, they are tied together, unlike any president and vice president in our history. >> let me go back to this scooter libby job. i respect one thing about scooter libby, his incredible loyalty. he's never come out and said the boss told me to do all this, but the boss, in this case dick cheney, said it. we're leaving a soldier on the