Seem to bother the journalists who interview her and they're sort of slow in accommodating this fact. and so right now i think the trump white house is much better at reading the deep grammar of the press than the press is at interpreting -- >> what do you mean the deep grammar? >> the deep grammar is like the logic beneath the practice. >> uh-huh. >> so, for example, the fact that you need your interviewees to come back is part of the deep grammar of journalism. right? it affects a lot of what you do but it's not on the surface, it's not explained to viewers. it's not something that journalij...