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this is cnn breaking news. . >> i'm victor blackwell, thank you for staying with us. we are of course covering the breaking news, this man hunt happening right now for the man who opened fire at a july 4th parade in highland park, illinois. he's described as armed and dangerous. at least six people are dead. more than two dozen have been taken to hospitals. now, a briefing a short time ago, police described this suspect. >> the suspect is currently described as a male, white, approximately 18 to 20 years old with longer black hair, a small build and wearing a white or blue t-shirt. a...

We know for example that in st. louis, if we're going to call it a ferguson expect, if there is a hotspot, it ought to be in st. louis. >> ferguson, right? >> but that the number of murders actually begin to rise prior to the death of michael brown, prior to the protests that occurred there. just by definition, something that happens after cannot cause something that happened before. >> that's exactly right. so there's nothing to suggest that in these communities where law enforcement might feel under siege that they are not doing their jobs, and, further, that not doing their jobs leads to hi...

The final thing that's worth saying, we have to make sure the public is included in this conversation. we can't have an elite conversation where we're imposing on people what they want. if you go to communities, they tend to want the police to be engaged. so this kind of libertarian notion that the police are the enemy. that's not true on the ground. >> does that resinate with you? >> absolutely. it resinates that communities want active and engaged law enforcement. i was talking with the commissioner from philadelphia and the co-chair of the presidential task force on policing. i was on a pan...