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Believe that we need to dig deep into, as we have with racial questions in the past, perhaps we have had commissions, one thing and another, but what is this about that makes us somewhat unique that these events keep repeating themselves in the horrible fashion they do? again, i think there's a journalistic challenge but i don't know the answer to it. >> yeah, nobody does. we feel helpless. we just report on it over and over. >> i think there's a deeper story. i use the word national pathology. i don't know what that is. i think there is a journalistic task at hand as well as obviously a task ...

The main sticking point appears to be whether or not republicans in the senate and the white house will allow the normal procedure that is jur usually followed in cases like this to apply to this case, too. brett kavanagh is not the first nominee for the supreme court or the first nominee for any high ranking senate confirmed position who has gone through the process of confirmation hearings only to see a serious allegation of some personal nature raised against him by a member of the public late in the process. that has happened to other nominees before. there is a system for dealing with thi...

Next day or next week after september 30th that he can get the same coverage he could have got two months ago. that and this bill, by your own admission, does not rock solid mandate that. >> under this if a state does decide to waive it or a state decides to not have that -- they can charge as much as they want to cover pre-existing condition, is that okay? because it's a state's decision. >> well, the state needs to design the healthcare system that works best for that population. i think these states are drastically different and we've seen that in some of the medicaid spending levels. you b...

Because i think most people know how unpopular this bill is. it's a question of whether they suck come to pressure, maybe from donors. the question is, do they make a short term decision now that could end up biting them in midterms and years to come? you're going to see a lot of their constituents actually suffer if we're to believe these numbers that we're starting to see. we don't have a cbo score yet. and if we do get one, it's only going to be partial. >> is this about politics or policy? >> i think the politics are important here. the senators went home in august and got an earful about ...

I think one of the most compelling arguments is the concept of federalism. returning power and money to state governments. putting health care decisions closer to the patients. i read a fascinating article by a guy named bernie belvedere. state governments can't print money. if you're a fiscal conservative and you want fiscal restraint in our national health care system. the government can print money to make up shortfalls. the argument was, fiscal conservatives ought to get behind this bill. i'm a proponent of keeping promises i think politics is important. >> you know, republicans made this ...