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Of black people and how we could grab hold of a truth that was elusive. that was black people are human beings and that they offer something, a witness, to the world of hurt and pain that others don't often look at. but if we listen to it, we would grow. bobby kennedy was willing to do so. he was first defensive to the truth that james baldwin brought. he had of course help. they brought the full weight of their witness to him. but it was a young man namd jerome smith, who along with john lewis is the most noteworthy and storied freedom writer of all because he was beat within an inch of his l...

It was his meeting that put bobby kennedy into a deep introspection that very few pushed him to. beyond the defensiveness he at first exhibited he was able to embrace the notion we got to speak about race. not in just political terms but in moral terms, and that shaped the rest of his life. >> this meeting you are talking about was arranged by bobby kennedy. he wanted to meet with these black americans at a very dangerous point in the civil rights movement. he's the attorney general. it is 1963 i believe when the meeting occurs in manhattan at a very fancy kennedy apartment in manhattan. he's ...

Military installations of the taliban regime in afghanistan. >> for the very first time in my memory you had something of this enormity that was broadcast live. >> film provided by the pentagon shown on television in primetime. >> we were pretty damn gung-ho at the time about going to war. we just wanted to go fight somebody. >> okay. then to the grave and deep introspection, now we're going to be at war. we're going to get these guys. >> when i think of music of 9/11, i think people in rock and roll didn't know if they were pro or anti-war. it's hard to come out with strong protest songs if y...

his holiness, the dalai lama. your holiness, how are you? >> fine. >> you were at the mayo clink. you've had your annual checkup. everything good? >> everything good? >> everything healthy? >> last one was seven years. annually i got checked, yeah. >> yeah. >> so basic sort of physical condition remain more the same. >> that's good. yes? you are probably the most famous person i have ever interviewed. >> really? >> do you like being that famous? >> no, no, no, no. i describe myself as a monk, no more, no less. i am one of the seven human beings. basically, we are the same. you are br...

>> fine. >> you were at the mayo clink. you've had your annual checkup. everything good? >> everything good? >> everything healthy? >> last one was seven years. annually i got checked, yeah. >> yeah. >> so basic sort of physical condition remain more the same. >> that's good. yes? you are probably the most famous person i have ever interviewed. >> really? >> do you like being that famous? >> no, no, no, no. i describe myself as a monk, no more, no less. i am one of the seven human beings. basically, we are the same. you are british or -- >> i'm british, yes. >> i'm tibetan. these are...