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Medicaid. the reality is the big issues with medicaid exsppansion is whe it covered able-bodied childless adults between the 1% of the poverty rate. the distortion with that, one of the reasons why virginia didn't expand, we saw medicaid was 5% of our budget starting out. now it's 22%, growing unsustainably. the crazy distortion in that is the able-bodied childless adults, the money that comes from the federal government to the states is reimbursed at 90-some-percent rate as opposed to 50% or 60% for the folks that medicaid was supposed to deal with, the folks in nursing homes, poor children, ...

Laura? >> think so far the plans republicans have put out are just not great. the cbo score is terrible. knocks 22 million people off insurance. i don't think anybody likes that. i don't think anybody likes the deep medicaid cuts. this plan doesn't seem to be popular even with republicans in congress. they can't get the votes to pass it. they've been trying to do this for months. coming up with different bills and not being able to get the votes. if they can't get it passed in republican-controlled house and senate, how is the public supposed to get behind it? >> good point. how about john mci...