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You talk about the united states... ..you find the pentagon in this particular obstructive phase. the democracy you know best, that you've worked in for many decades, is the united kingdom. sure. you have just written a book — here it is, lawfare: how russians, the rich and the government try to prevent free speech. and what you appear to be saying here is that the uk system, which british politicians proclaim as absolutely enshrining freedoms, including freedom of expression, you say it's somewhat of a myth, that actually the british legal system doesn't guarantee freedoms at all. it doesn'...

Or of wealthy individuals, they come at you with defamation actions, which will cost you £1 million, even to successfully defend. they come at you with privacy actions... to be fair, they come at you with the law and, surely, they have a right to use the law. of course. and the argument that i make is the law should be changed to favour free speech and not to suppress, as the way criticisms of putin were suppressed. books, prescient books a couple of years ago, showing that putin and his cronies were corrupt, have never been published in britain, or were subject, in the case of one important ...

The rich and the government try to prevent free speech. and what you appear to be saying here is that the uk system, which british politicians proclaim as absolutely enshrining freedoms, including freedom of expression, you say it's somewhat of a myth, that actually the british legal system doesn't guarantee freedoms at all. it doesn't. this is the problem. we don't have free speech in this country. we have expensive speech. if you want to write an expose of a russian oligarch, or of british defence, or of wealthy individuals, they come at you with defamation actions, which will cost you £1 m...

They're then at least open to defamation actions and police other platforms, obviously not just facebook, similar platforms. is that not a solution? >> so, the problem with that, is first and one thing i really stress is that the internet is not just facebook. the internet is yelp. it's glass door. it's a community site that allows user comments. i think if you made that change, first off again, defamation is something that you can sue over. but there's a lot of harmful content especially in the current debate that is constitutionally protected. so that's a real challenge. but even if you were...

By the author you jean carroll who alleged that then civilian donald trump committed sexual assault against her. their decision to maintain that particular position and say because they believe the statement was made in the course of his public duties, that he should not be the appropriate defendant, has the essential consequence here of saying that it could be dismissed. as we know, defamation actions can't stand against the government of the united states. in many respects, while trying to talk about the rule of law and showing no favor to others, he has ended up having the same result as th...