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When republican candidates, such as the ones you mentioned earlier, have ramped up warnings of threats to what they say to be real america. and on this vision of supposedly real america, implicitly or explicitly, means white, a certain kind of a christian. >> yeah, it's this kind of this nativist outlook that they have adopted that america's founding was white christians and everyone else since then, has not helped advance the country but taken away from it >>. and that's the scary thing, rich, because there's this new poll taken after the buffalo shooting, that actually found three quarters o...

Outnumbered officers were letting protesters into the capitol. a day later after that decision another man who faced similar charges backed out of his plea deal. could this be a defense argument in other january 6th trial. >> rev, you better believe every insurrectionists now is going to try to use this precedent as a model of their defense. and what's absurd to me they had the video footage of this defendant recording climb through broken windows but his defense was i didn't notice know of that, i i didn't hear any that, and the judge essentially said, oh, well we'll accept that. and i think ...

But he has chosen to put his fate in the hands of the same jury that heard all these things about the mcmichaels. >> about 30 seconds left. i was interested in the defense argument that whatever the language was, the defendants weren't member of hate groups. why does their membership in a hate group matter or not matter here? >> what does that have to do with the price of tea of china? that's what my mama would say. nothing to do with nothing. like i told you, this is simply the defense attempting to do whatever they can do. i may not, what we're seeing in this country, what i think mayor bott...

The message that is sent. it's completely different than the state trial when we saw what was depicted, which is the violence but more of the mind of these defendants and what drove them to have the audacity to chase down this man that they did not know, did not know their mother, their family, their friends, what he's been through, but because of how he looked. they determined that they wanted to be judge, jury and executioner. >> bernarda, as a legal expert, i'm just curious, aside from the defense argument and what we heard from the prosecution, what impact at all did ahmaud arbery's family...

One on one, he would beat me down. he just wanted anything to get me to shut up. >> this time, ryan refused to keep quiet, telling the jury and his father about that terrible september night when two men broke into his home, beat him up, and repeatedly stabbed his mother in the next room. then ryan faced cross examination, and defense attorney rudy lowenstein had already told the jury he planned to put ryan on trial. >> the killing of ariet girgis was because she interrupted a robbery or a drug transaction or a collection of a debt of some kind between ryan and these two suspects. >> the defen...