Consequences publicly when bad things happen. the other side of this is the defensive side, we have to bring nations together, we have to bring industries together, no one company, not one government can defend itself alone we have to build up defense capabilities. we are not doing that effectively between the government industry and the government is really stopping the russian. >> nicole perlroth and jamil, thank you to you both. don't the way a sneak preview of the new documentary of trymaine lee examining the tulsa massacre. they join me next. join me next. shingles doesn't care. i keep my...