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At least to help break a filibuster, if that's what it came to, ambassador rice failed in convincing senator collins. mccain was out of it at that point. >> let me ask you about this other talk, and we're going to play nice now. that a former republican senator chuck hagel could become the next defense secretary. what do you think, chris, how would democrats feel about that scenario? >> i think it would be a very interesting pick, senator hagel is tremendously respected on both sides. i think at the end of his political career as senator of nebraska, i think he rubbed some of the republicans a...

Pivot at this point then based on leadership in the white house? >> i would hope they would. one of the first things i would do, i have had the opportunity over the last year to meet with prime minister netanyahu at least three teams to look at defense issues in israel. if we're concerned about these issues you can imagine how israel, one of our major allies in the middle east is concerned. i think the least the president should do is take a meeting with the prime minister and sit down and reassure him that the united states is going to be supporting our friends. bill: would you expect that to...

>> barackh did an interview, yesterday or today, saying that, actually, they have never had a better relationship in terms of defense issues, which is his area of expertese. so i am not sure that i have to agree with that. i think there have been disagreements with israel -- >> he left the prime minister waiting -- [overlapping dialogue] -- >> waiting inside the white house and he snubbed him. we are giving $1.5 billion to the muslim brotherhood. >> we are giving money to egypt, which we have always done i. the muslim brotherhood. >> now the muslim brotherhood is in control. but we have always...

Grows to hike taxes. >> reporter: on all those people and remember it's $200,000, it's 250 for the household, 200 for individuals. patti murray and other democrats, she runs their re-election team for the senate, and they say, we would rather have taxes go up for everybody in the country. here we are talking about maybe more than $200 billion in new taxes for everybody in the country, or all taxpayers in the countries if republicans don't agree to have the taxes just go up for top earners. the rhetoric is ratcheting up over and over again and now the republicans are pushing hard on defense mat...

listen, give me a sense of your reaction this morning after hearing president obama's announcement. >> well, i'm still elated and filled with emotion, what president obama did yesterday was so courageous because, as you know, other past presidents and vice presidents have come out in favor of marriage equality for gay people, but president obama did it while he's still in office and while there's still -- some might consider a risk to his future presidency, re-election but it was incredibly fantastic for 14 and 15-year-old kids to hear the president of the united states say to them t...