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Testimony of these victims. we'll have a horrific tale to tell. certainly the likelihood -- the defense perspective, look out for the defense to circle their wagons around the fact that there isn't any doctors evidence. there isn't any scientific documentary evidence that he terminated pregnancies. it will be interesting to see what they develop, and you better believe law enforcement is going to do their best to develop that evidence, that is probably why they're going over that residents with a fine-tooth comb. they want to make they are case, and when they make it, they want it to stick. >>...

>> yeah we'll not see trial until next year that is smart from the defense perspective. from the defense perspective you're trying to keep your guy alive. the longer you prolong this, you know he will never get out of prison, longer you prolong the trial the better. jon: enhanced risk because they're now going for the death penalty, perhaps something could get bungled in the case that guy could walk? >> absolutely right. lis said it had at the outset the bird it in the hand is worth, however the phrase goes. reality you have to look at timing of offer. they did it early so they wouldn't have t...

But from a defense perspective, you want to do everything you can do to keep them out of a space like this. >> all right. stand by. great work. thank you for showing us the realities of what the scene looked like. also want to remind our viewers you can watch the jodi arias trial this afternoon live on hln. also on cnn.com. a filmmaker interviews jerry sandusky all in an effort to clear joe paterno's name. so why is the former coach's family so upset?

Need what's caused an overt act. an argument in furtherance of that conspiracy so that you can complete it. and those there that you just laid out show those overt acts. so from the part of the prosecution, they're saying, aha, we got you. from a defense perspective, they're saying you need the act. it's a legal definition of saying you have to actually have acted. and it's not enough if it was only in his mind. so it's a fascinating argument, the jury is the tryer of fact, they'll determine who prevails. >> sunny, i have to wrap it up there, but really quick comment, is this going to come dow...

Prosecution didn't bring it out, but you know, forensics take time and you know, they're going to-- if her skull was crushed in a location other than where the bullet entered and not relate today the bullet wound, it's a major problem for him. he's claiming bullet wound through the door. self-defense. >> if there was an altercation between them and of course there's been reports that they were screaming before and actually now, more than one ear witness to that and we're going to hear more about that and now a surveillance video showing her pull up and we're trying to find out if there's a sur...