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Seen below that level in letters back and forth. what we've seen is steps forward like this followed at some point by a step back. and that's been the pattern that's been going on ever since january when he started to express some detaunt with south koreans. this would go beyond trump's first term in office. the president doesn't want any part of that. >> real quickly, there's rumors about this about shakeups in the white house, firings after the mid-terms. that happens in a lot of administrations. one that has been bandied about, the defense position that jim mattis would go and your name cam...

Or from the horse's mouth himself. he can only get it from there and we're waiting to see if he'll do it. >> congressman, what do you think mueller is more like to do if he has some sort of gomt potential obstruction of justice by president trump? >> well, i'll tell you. they will prepare immensely for this particular interview which is why it is so risky for trump to walk into that terview. th'll know more about what he did a said and all the people cooperating withhe investigation will help guide the questioning for that particular interview. and so i'm sure that they'll want to get to the h...

I would like to base our decisions on how to restrict visas based upon actual intelligence rather than broader generalizations, but this is better than where he was were before. he took a step from where he was to a position that's workable to protect the country. he was ill-served by whoever it was that cam up with the way to roll this out, not including irrelevant people that needs to be included like general kelly and others, not getting all the briefings from the airports, all the security folks to ensure things were not done inkrengtly, which obviously were, and then trying to defend it a...

Which obviously were, and then trying to defend it as if what you see is not what you really see. what it allowed the president's adversaries today was to call it a muslim ban, which it is not. it took the president further back than it needed to. tonight, frankly, the president was ill-served, took a reasonable defense position than he had taken in the campaign, and it's one that's in the right direction in terms of defending our country, and i think he was extraordinarily ill-served by the way it was presented. >> stop grading on the curve. most botched foreign policy. general mattis carved ...

Iran, north korea, we never heard about those in a public forum in 2008 or 2009, but now it's generally accepted that these nation states are targeting the united states. to see that come out was important, i think. but nothing new. let's talk about the actual hack in the first place. you know a lot about it, i know. you were partly involved in helping when the attack happened. what made it difference from previous efforts? >> i think what we have seen is the movement from typical espionage to the use of cyber as a vector, where intelligence services are taking intelligence to collect to beh...