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Listening to cnn this morning. i heard folks saying democrats need to focus on health care and they need to do this and talk about that. those people are totally divorced from fact and reality. they have not been on the ground, and i have. what democrats, what candidates across the country are doing, is they're talking about the issues. they're talking about the fact when republicans got a chance to do something for you, to cut your taxes, that they cut the wealthiest americans' taxes and only made semipermanent tax cuts for folks like you and i. so that is what is winning democrats' primaries...

>> you know what gary cohen did, he walked out the door. >> did a good job on tax cuts and tax reform. >> let's just correct something. gary cohn did tax cuts. it's unclear where there's any tax reform. where is tax reform? >> the broad reform lowered when you lower the corporate rate, you fix the repatriation tax side. certainly cuts are good. >> you're not concerned about the deficit ballooning, that's not what the koch brothers like. >> we're concerned about the fact that republicans and democrats join together on one bipartisan initiative, to raise federal spending. that's what's driving t...

They always did before. and if you are suddenly infusing a stimulus package now, what are you going to do when we're this bad times? one of the reasons the market went down is because there is good news out there. unemployment is in a good place. wages are going up. that means we don't need interest rates to be extra ordinarily low anymore. it is not normal for rates to be 3% right around there. we saw the treasury -- excuse me, we you saw the fed push rates really low to get us out of a recession to spur growth. growth has happened. thousand we should be able to stand on our own. >> and what ...