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This is going to exert a pressure on spending that mostly benefits middle and lower income mornings. now, beyond that, i think you have the real issue that for republicans -- and this is where democrats need to remember. they need to peel off republican votes. my suggestion to them, free advice is what you pay for it, is to focus on the deficit. you have republicans out there, jeff flake and bob corker who say they do not want to grow the debt and the deficit. this is a deficit buster. any analysis, whether it's the tax policy center, whether it's the committee for a responsible federal budget...

The house saying why it's critically important to get this done. >> we want to unleash the vast potential of this nation to tax reform, we have to start by unleashing the individual potential of every american. we have three key objectives to making such a tremendous difference for middle-class americans. >> top democrats are attacking this republican tax plan, saying it would be a deficit buster. >> this idea that the administration can pay for a 5-$7 trillion tax cut through growth is simply selling a bill of goods using fake math. >> republicans counter that their tax plan is designed to he...

Don't think the wall will ever happen. this means we're at a turning point here and the wall is no longer a sort of real goal for the white house. is that what -- >> i think it might be an analo analogy. >> an analogy, metaphor. >> they say pushing it april to september. that fight will be just as difficult in september. they don't get savings from health care if they don't pass it, tax cuts, how far do you go on deficit, deficit buster. it's a real fight with fiscal conservatives and they don't want the wall. >> what do you make of it? >> fold that in some appoint. >> the big news for people ...

. if it happens, it would save 100 billion over 10 years because it would reduce the amount of subidies . so if you are trully a deficit buster, you will be for it. not going to happen. >> i will argue the mathematics. morgan we knew we would inch our way into it. isn't that happening? that obama care we saw passed a couple of years ago is the beginning of full-blown government take over. >> it is unlikely that the public option will happen. i will jump on the idea of funky mathematics for a second. this 100 billion plus number that is thrown around is from a cvo report . then in 2010, the num...

Medicare change for seniors while the rich absolutely give up nothing. >> more so than that, actually. so you keep the bush tax cuts, make them permanent. then ryan adds $4.5 trillion more in tax cuts. he hasn't said how he'll pay for them. just told the budget office assume i'll pay for this. i'll clean the tax code, kill the home mortgage interest deduction and pay for all of this. if he doesn't do that, his budget is a huge deficit buster. one point to crystal who's correct, romney's plan is much vaguer. what he has offered is his overall targets. romney's plan is much more aggressive even ...