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Overwhelming, that they would fire up the base to the point where they could lead this conversation, and it would be a conversation connecting deficit cutting with creating jobs. and that's obviously not where we're at. because we've never got beyond the scary parts of the ryan budget, and the fact that actually it doesn't really balance the budget, at least not for 30 years or more. so there's a problem here with choosing someone who isn't clearly ready to step up to the number one job. that's really the only test for a vp pick. can you imagine them as president? and instead, you get this bac...

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Augustine budget, that is what the president is saying here, let's have deficit reduction and not have it right now. take a look at the specifics that are in this and you get a sense that it's a budget that envisions about a $1.3 trillion budget shortfall starting in 2012 and that goes to $901 billion by 2013 and the deficit will be at 3% of gdp. there's deficit cutting, about $1 trillion worth and $1.5 trillion from ending the tax cuts for the rich and the wars from afghan stan. and there's stimulus in here. some spending to jump start the

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Infrastructure, we create 25,000 jobs. the president in this new stimulus wants to spend $75 billion right away, in the next 18 months. that would create close to 1.6 million new jobs by itself. >> now, e.j., you said this week was a pivot week, this changed the whole conversation going on. what do you mean by that? >> i think where you look at where we were for most of the year. we were talking about the tea party, talking about deficit cutting, an insurgency and resurgence. what you have seen are a number of things. one, the anti-wall street demonstrators have replaced the tea party as the o...