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Economist it's they're sitting around this table and wanted bore everyone can explain why that doesn't matter. put that aside. >> fair enough. >> but what i don't think we're going to get -- and you can't get an agreement because it's all about implementation, no matter what the chinese say, it would be hard to take it an face value they're going to stoop stealing american technology, and much less they're going to change their economic model to creating these things. if they agree to it, no way they implement it. >> the main problem with china is the trade deficit, and our main problem is the...

So you don't have to deal with any of these issues if you just call people names, start depicting a whole party and people that vote for the party as part of a, quote, mob. >> ref recommended, i think you -- ref recommended, i think you and i agree on the deficit issue. when the budget was passed that president trump sienldgned, he i'm not signing it again. >> but he signed it that time. >> because it included defense spending, the military was gutted under the previous administration. >> he signed it and it caused a huge deficit. one of the largest jumps we've seen in many years. >> i am so g...

Mccain and thune didn't have those immigration points the president said he wanted to see? >> it's interesting. the president had that line earlier this week where he said i would love a shutdown. if we don't get a deal to impose controls on our border, we need to have a shutdown. to a certain degree that was something a lot of republicans on capitol hill were very much against. it was the democrats who wanted to hold hostage's spending bills, getting a daca deal because they felt that was the only leverage they have. they've been able to decouple spending from daca. they have dealt with the d...

But we've neglected our military and there's a massive cost of rebuilding the military the longer you neglect it. same with interstates and bridges. secondly we can't sit -- i have my colleagues that come on all the time on tv and that say we need to bomb isis and be ready for north korea and have missile defense and they name these litany of things but then vote against giving the people the funds to do it. that said, with the deficit issue, the problem is -- and we all know this, just nobody talks about it -- 75% of federal spending congress doesn't even have control over, we don't appropria...

They just want to win. win at any cost. this is going to cost middle class taxpayers. >> who is going to own that deficit issue after this. the senate tax bill as a trillion dollars to our -- >> as republicans we should. >> who owns that? >> it's almost $22 trillion now. i was waiting to see what the dynamic score was because that's what a lot of republicans said when it was the 1.4 trillion added. the score came out and said it was only $1 trillion. clearly that defined physical conservativism. no, it's not. we have a spending problem. let's look at the salt deduct n deduction. that's a $72 b...