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Months about how they dealt with guns. they're divided over immigration. over taxes and whether they include that as part of a deficit package. they feel president has been the offensive since the beginning of his second term. this is the first time they feel they have something to really pound the administration on. and i don't that you really sense any sort of shift other than they feel like they can continue to throw bombs up here. >> all right. thank you so much. see you soon. >> thank you. up next, an issue that he also knows about there on the hill. what congress is not focusing on ami...

Future deficit agreement. if republicans think that i will finish the job of deficit reduction through spending cuts alone, if they think that is going to be the formula for how we solve this thing, then they have another thing coming. >> all right, you catch that. the white house seriously, no kidding around says they will not accept a bargain in which what they got was an increase in the debt limit. so was congress, and what they get is congress simply agreeing to pay its bills. that is not their payoff. they see it as a historic responsibility to end the dawning precedent that minorities in...

Up a bit as part of an overall deficit package. >> i'm told we have new information coming to us from capitol hill, kelly o'donnell. you have been working the phones, e-mails and everything else. is there an update? >> there is. it doesn't look like a promising one. there's been a major setback in negotiations. majority leader harry reid has been telling fellow democrats they are in a worst place now than 24 hours ago. proposals exchanged back and forth. both parties made movement on the key issues dealing with taxes and escape taxes. now democrats say, we have not yet heard from republicans, ...

It's just to raise the limit for what congress has already appropriated to be spent. >> in a perfect world a debt ceiling is a stupid way to run a railroad. congress should appropriate what it wants to appropriate. the white house and the executive branches should go ahead and spend it and that's the way you should run it. we're not in a perfect world and we have the debt ceiling. i don't see any possibility that the republicans are going to permanently give up the right to weigh in on the debt ceiling from time to time. on the other hand, i don't see any possibility that the white house would...

That this whole, the reason that there's a, you know, there isn't a deal in the first place, because it's their fault and that's not true. it's both parties that did this and the president particularly not showing leadership and kicking the can down the road and creating a super committee. the media is not covering this correctly at all. reporting that the president want a deficit package. 1 trillion from tending the war and that's going to happen and another trillion from spending cuts in the past so they are he completely ignoring that and again, it's not spending cuts that the president is ...