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Because he already has given us $7 trillion of obama debt. he will double the debt inherited. and how do our kids pay it back? >> we have a deficit problem, i am not going to argue it at all. >> so what are you doing about it? >> but that is a different thing than saying we're simply going to stop paying our bills. >> you're not listening. >> no, i'm listening. >> every time you borrow money, congressman, let me get this through your liberal head. every time you borrow money you're robbing from our children and our grandchildren. what part of that are you getting? >> sean, i have heard you. th...

Themselves in the spotlight and raise money for another political run? >> i think they genuinely believes in their position. but it doesn't get to the core issues, which is getting our deficit and debt under control. if you want to get that under control, you've got to make proposals that will actually adjust the way our entitlements are growing and reduce the rate in which they're growing. the good news is we're no longer talking about the issue of whether or not you're going to kill obama care of a condition of opening the government orring a debt ceiling. we're talking about the bigger issu...

Developed country. we can't afford it and we aren't going to be competitive if it keeps going this way. >> do you believe we don't have a debt and deficit problem? >> no. i think his point is when you look and see the big charts where the big red looming debt into the future, i always want to ask people, draw the line on what part of that is medicare. what part of that is health care costs. and we've seen that in terms of wage deflation when our wages don't cover. that's because health care costs have gone up. and because housing costs have gone up. used to be a third of all of our costs we sp...

>> well, i've said all along a lot of the things that have been discussed very openly on the floor of the senate, things like health savings accounts, reconnecting the consumer to the cost of health care, doing things with flexible savings accounts that were modified in obama care. i think we haven't done enough cost containment of health care. the president has said over and over again, we don't have a debt and deficit problem, we have a health care problem. we pay too much. we think by the end of this decade it's going to be 20% of what we do in our economy. that's too much. it's twice as mu...

Room. the president didn't say yes, didn't say no. it wases a useful hour and however many minutes to the clarify where the parties stood. these are serious times. we have a huge deficit problem, a huge spending problem. it shouldn't have gotten though critical state before we got a negotiation with the president. it would have been nicer to avoid the crisis. this isn't a good way to operate. coming out of it, you are seeing progress. at least the staffs and leaders will be discussing into tonight. we put everything else on hold at this point. i think there is a glimmer of hope here. but, you ...