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Going to negotiate, things wouldn't go well. jon: yale yeah. >> we shouldn't end up in shutdown of the government to get to the point where we sit down and talk about how to resolve the country's big spending problem and deficit problem. we're in the discussions. i'm optimistic we'll see progress. nothing is for certain yet. jon: you said the president didn't say yes, didn't say no. the white house is careful not to describe your meeting as a negotiation, but is there some horse trading going on? >> it was a conversation, that we hope will lead to productive negotiations. and so, i think there...

Room. the president didn't say yes, didn't say no. it wases a useful hour and however many minutes to the clarify where the parties stood. these are serious times. we have a huge deficit problem, a huge spending problem. it shouldn't have gotten though critical state before we got a negotiation with the president. it would have been nicer to avoid the crisis. this isn't a good way to operate. coming out of it, you are seeing progress. at least the staffs and leaders will be discussing into tonight. we put everything else on hold at this point. i think there is a glimmer of hope here. but, you ...

Would like to get your lobbies to collapse to the u.s. it seems and sounds like there are a lot of people in the senate, not just the ted yohos. i use my time on television to say ted yoho. richard burr, people who are not rowdy members of congress, are not speak income terms, and suggesting it's not all that bad. >> i haven't heard any of my republican colleagues to suggest it may be okay to default on our debt. what is totally unacceptable is for the president to think he should be the first president in modern times not to have to address our overspending problem that's causing the need for...

I don't regret having entered into those negotiations, and we came fairly close. whenever i see john boehner to this day, i still say, should have taken the deal i offered you back then. which would have dealt with our long-term deficit problem, would not have impeded growth as much, would have really boosted confidence. at that time, i think house republicans had just taken over. they were thinking, you know, we don't have to compromise. we came pretty close to default. we saw the impact of that. i would have thought they would have learned the lesson from that as i did, which is we can't put...

The government to do things, nadia. >> no, no, no. >> you think the government has to take care of you. >> one thing we need ed to realize and i'm glad we are excited about this and having fun, but we are t not so different from one another -- democrats and republicans. none of us think it is a good thing to have a deficit problem. we are all trying to solve it. the difference between democrats and republicans is the democrats think it's important to fund the supplemental nutrition assistance program more than give huge sums to companies like monsanto. >> i'm a conservative. end all corporate ...