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Leader dick durbin, the two men who have been at the table. congress hearing from all sides on the fiscal cliff and heading up a coalition of business and economic leaders in the fix the debt campaign, where do you sense the players are right now in terms of whether they'll go interest a small deal, band-aid approach or grand bargain. >> the good news is while it's a nail biter, that's for sure, we all wish we could solve some of these problems without going to the brink like we do in politics, i think they're going to get this resolved and be able to put in place a plan not just to avert the ...

Grow the economy of the state that he is using now to run all 50 states? >> that's exactly what he did. he also talked about how he knew he was going to solve the state's deficit problems because he knew how to get there and find the waste and abuse and so forth. it was very much the same kind of arguments. as you mentioned at the top, he came in, and was not the kind of governor he wants to talk about when he was addressing republican primary voters. he had a lot of agenda items on housing and environment and a lot of that he didn't accomplish because he realized he would run as a conservativ...

Right around the corner, i thought it would be worth doing. shouldn't have to do it but if that was the price we have to pay to get democrat support, i was willing to do it. unfortunately the democrats said no, that number doesn't begin with a t, it's not a trillion dollars so they were never really very interested. you mentioned repeatedly the democrats wanted a trillion dollars tax height. they said it would come from the people who could most afford it, the highest earners in the country. it was a sticking point. i want to take a look at a poll that came out friday. this is asking people ou...

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