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No, 1993 wasn't the problem it is today. even 10 years before -- >> that's true. >> we needed the ford foundation to spend some time getting illegal immigrants to come across the border and apply for welfare. now it's a crisis for a country in bankruptcy. we need one of those deficit stickers. we need a ticker for how much anchor babies are costing american taxpayers. >> maybe five years from now, we're not there yet. maybe with the -- if an immigration bill passes, that should be part of it. that would be a solution. pass new immigration bill and you say we're going to give you a pathway to c...

No, 1993 wasn't the problem it is today. even 10 years before -- >> that's true. >> we needed the ford foundation to spend some time getting illegal immigrants to come across the border and apply for welfare. now it's a crisis for a country in bankruptcy. we need one of those deficit stickers. we need a ticker for how much anchor babies are costing american taxpayers. >> maybe five years from now, we're not there yet. maybe with the -- if an immigration bill passes, that should be part of it. that would be a solution. pass new immigration bill and you say we're going to give you a pathway to c...

No, 1993 wasn't the problem it is today. even 10 years before -- >> that's true. >> we needed the ford foundation to spend some time getting illegal immigrants to come across the border and apply for welfare. now it's a crisis for a country in bankruptcy. we need one of those deficit stickers. we need a ticker for how much anchor babies are costing american taxpayers. >> maybe five years from now, we're not there yet. maybe with the -- if an immigration bill passes, that should be part of it. that would be a solution. pass new immigration bill and you say we're going to give you a pathway to c...