Expertise in the subject to understand the similarities or lack thereof and make the best judgment with what we were given. [inaudible] i mean, i definitely don t think it was a case where you walk in the room and no one had anything to say. we spent a lot of time going very carefully through the questions and the definitions of everything and trying to answer them to the best of our abilities. so i think it was less about there being a lack of liberation and more so of us wanting to be thorough and get ourselves on a page we were comfortable with, which did not necessarily happen immediately. so, there was a lot of back and forth, we all wanted to make sure we were comfortable with the decision we were giving. did anyone feel very strongly for the other side? i think, you know, there are seven people in the room, everyone had opinions going in. but both sides had advocates, ....