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Cardinal ratsinger. he asked he die as a priest, he not be defrocked. there's indication that cardinal ratzinger tried to stop that defrocking process. there's no evidence to that fact. this is what he's trying to do is say, look, you're making supposition here but there's no proof. >> thanks for that great report. thanks for staying up hate over there. ann thompson in beautiful rome this time of night. i've been there late myself. with me is "the washington post" sally quinn, the co-moderator of the on-line religious form called on faith. you're not a catholic. look at the perspective you've ...

Excuse father murphy. but the point he makes is the inference is that then-cardinal ratzinger, who is now pope benedict xvi, somehow looked the other way in this case. father murphy wrote to cardinal ratzinger, asked that he be allowed to die as a priest, that he not be defrocked. there is some implication that perhaps cardinal ratzinger tried to stop that defrocking process and levada says there's no evidence to that fact. and this is what he's trying to do is say you're making supposition here but there's no proof. >> well said. thanks for that great report. thanks for staying up late there....

Benedict the xvi. he wrote to him and asked he be allowed to die as a priest and not be defrocked. there is some implication cardinal ratsinger tried to stop that defrocking process and he say there's no evidence to that. you're making supposition here but there's no proof. >> thanks for that great report. thanks for staying up late over there. anne thompson in beautiful rome this time of night. i've been there late myself. with me now is sally quinn. you're not a catholic. let's look at the perspective you have on this as a journalist. what is the pope's problem? can he deal with it? >> it do...

Involve pope benedict when he was a cardinal in the church years before he became pope. the first one happened when he was archbishop of munich. there he is accused of being involved in the transfer of a known pedophile priest from one area to another and when he was transferred, there were no restrictions placed on him and his involvement in children. the other case involves a priest in wisconsin who also was a known pedophile priest and who was in the process of being defrocked, and that's essentially being stripped of his priestly duties. he wrote to then cardinal ratzinger, who became pope...