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These groups came out against any strategy to remove elements of obama care saying you have to do one thing and repeal it and that's it. they were movers behind the defund strategy. and one of the key things that got a lot of members in the house was when heritage action earlier this year called upon the house representatives to separate the farm bill into two bill one on food stamps and one for farm programs and once the house did. that now vote against both of them or we'll double score you a negative. this is building. >> so the threats are coming in and more emotional part of the story. mo...

These groups came out against any strategy to remove elements of obama care saying you have to do one thing and repeal it and that's it. they were movers behind the defund strategy. and one of the key things that got a lot of members in the house was when heritage action earlier this year called upon the house representatives to separate the farm bill into two bill one on food stamps and one for farm programs and once the house did. that now vote against both of them or we'll double score you a negative. this is building. >> so the threats are coming in and more emotional part of the story. mo...

I am bill o'rielly. more division in the republican party. as you know the new budget passed three tlo to 94. and some members of the tea party oppose the budget. >> frankly, i think they have lost all credibility. they pushed us in the fight to defund the obama care and shut down the government. that was not the strategy i had in mind. >> joining us from austin, texas karl rove. was that a good strategy that he excoreated the far right. >> he is after a group of washington d.c. based. club for forth and herittage action. that put his members in a bad place by bullying and threat eping them wi...

I am bill o'rielly. more division in the republican party. as you know the new budget passed three tlo to 94. and some members of the tea party oppose the budget. >> frankly, i think they have lost all credibility. they pushed us in the fight to defund the obama care and shut down the government. that was not the strategy i had in mind. >> joining us from austin, texas karl rove. was that a good strategy that he excoreated the far right. >> he is after a group of washington d.c. based. club for forth and herittage action. that put his members in a bad place by bullying and threat eping them wi...

Act they could do than allowing something that would lead to them not winning the election. that's the mentality. that's the mentality that lies behind this thing. >> you are being tough on them. you believe that president obama and the reelection time in one of their meetings. you have to figure out the meetings on strategy and what not. we know that bum pumcare is problematic in certain areas. seen ups and doctors and being vaebl, higher prem yups and we know that now in 2012. we'll not address it. we'll put it in a desk drawer until after the election. is that what happened? >> we know that...