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They think business getting big and big is good. i say when businesses are that big is t is because there is not assumption there is a bagout. in my free market, they wouldn't be that big. >> would there be a monopoly? >> no. because there won't be favoritism. >> in other words you can't say no -- somebody has to be the referee and say rob, tim, sam, we're going to have a soap box competition. you get three ounces worth of wood. two ounces worth of tire. one ounce of rubber band. here we go. isn't the government the one who has it ultimately set the rules. >> i believe in free markets. the mar...