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Have fled violence, walked many, many miles for months. they don't have any money to even -- a phone call. for a phone call. so this is a dehumanizing process, and it's a prison they're holding women in for committing a misdemeanor. >> so the secretary is correct. there's lots -- there's lots of underlying causes, right? i talked about this earlier. organization america states the u.n., there is a refugee crisis in central america that needs to be dealt with. terrible, inhuman questiocondit. no one is banging on the governments to do better. i'm not quite certain why. secretary gutierrez also ...

The immigration laws so we don't have to go through this again. >> i'm brenda lawrence from detroit, michigan. i came here to look, to see the people who -- the human beings who are coming to this country for asylum. i did not see the criminal. the criminals that these human beings are being portrayed as. i would say clearly the president's executive order had an immediate impact on families. and this president should be ashamed. >> i'm congresswoman barbara lee from the 13th congressional district of california. this process, first of all, is such a dehumanizing process. it's shocking to me. ...

Shootings. it is a complete almost abject betrayal of the notion of the sacredness of life. and so the women grow up seeing that all around them and not surprisingly, replicate that behavior. i think that's what's happening across not all of america, but in certain parts that our children remarkably mimic what they see, what they witness, and what's taught to them. >> but to me, it's getting worse. i don't know what you think about this. but it seems like an escalation in the desensitizing of these kids. adam lanza at sandy hook, to be able to walk into a classroom of first graders and just an...

First graders and just annihilate them. this kid has been charged with this offense, to walk up to a baby in a stroller and just shoot a bullet in his head. it seems to me a sort of dehumanizing process is going on here that removes any sense of normal behavior. >> i thought you were taking it to the place of redemption because you were starting with tiger woods. i thought you would ask jim if you thought these people deserved redemption. >> i will come to that. i'm not really i suppose -- >> she will take over your show if you let her. >> i will and i will tell you my husband is dutch and he ...

Baby in a stroller and just shoot a bullet in his head. it seems to me a sort of dehumanizing process is going on here that removes any sense of normal behavior. >> i thought you were taking it to the place of redemption because you were starting with tiger woods. i thought you would ask jim if you thought these people deserved redemption. >> i will come to that. i'm not really i suppose -- >> she will take over your show if you let her. >> i will and i will tell you my husband is dutch and he watches you every night. he says this is sick, this country is sick and it's a disease and it's sad t...