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Clearly what his objective has been all along. that's delay. he played a game with mueller's office about will he or won't hw testify. he was never going to testify, but he managed to build in a year of delay in playing the game about will he testify. now the president is having witnesses do exactly the same thing. play the delay game. this committee is going at most one witness per week on this.in so the legal enforcement once the witness denied the committee what the committee wants, the legal enforcement on this is a bunch of backed up vehicles on a highway to nowhere. >> yes, and to your p...

All the democrats on the judiciary committee, including their leader, senator schumer agree to that if they all say this should only be exclusively about professor ford, that's one thing. but, if the democrats don't say it, they're tipping their hand that they want this to be open-ended that way they can continue to drag it along and delay it look, neil, it took professor ford 10 days to get to washington to show up for an interview. do you think the lawyers who represent all these other people are going to easily make their people available? it's a delay game. that's what it has always been. ...

That started that with the south koreans that came as a result of two things. overall dealing with a different president and recognizing that the sanctions were real because they felt it and secondly, military option was put back on the table. never believed it was a credible option under president obama. they believe the option under president trump. that's why that all started. if they're playing the same delay game that they have always played and there's evidence to support that now, our policy will change a little bit and we're going to get a lot tougher. >> neil: thanks, general. breakin...

We were going after republicans saying you're stalling. they said, no, we're following the process. it was a delay game. what is your take on what this memo reveals. i know you're not a politician. but was this savvy for the democrats to rekindle this conversation after the nunes memo fell flat? >> i thought they should have just left it sit. people in the national security world, i don't know about the public sphere. i'm not a great politician. but they look and said this is a joke. why even were bother to respond. you're giving it more credibility than it has. one thing that is fascinating j...

Gary b smith, john, along with denene and jessica. welcome to everybody. john, you say cut out the delay game and get working for the working-class americans. >> yeah. get working for the american people. because i don't think they're working for the american people. they're working for themselves. look what has gone on for the last 16 years in this country. the democrats blocking everything from president bush. and then you have the republicans blocking everything from president obama. i saw recent poll that said congress' approval generating was at 28%, the high for the last eight years. i f...