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Positions. i think that might be coming from the bernie sanders camp. >> dana: what do you think, matt? >> beto o'rourke is an impressive candidate. he gave ted cruz a run for his money and raised so much money, something like $80 million. a real difference between how republicans and democrats think about politics, democrats and certainly their delegate process, they think about it in terms of characteristics, what's your gender, to the extent they believe in gender? what is your racial profile? what is your ethnicity? that's where they are coming from. what's your sexual orientation. republi...

Trump asked me to get involved because my reputation among other things in politics is understanding of the convention process, the delegate process and most of the major successful big conventions over the last 30 years i've been intimately involved in. >> did roger recommend you for the job? >> roger was one of the two or three people who strongly recommended me, yes. >> did he bring you in? >> no. not at all. >> last friday night paul manafort's long time friend and partner roger stone went ballistic on twitter.

Laundering and tax fraud. sanders downplayed his role in the campaign as well. liste listen. >> again this goes back to activities outside the scope of the campaign. i can't comment on anything they did. look, the president hired paul manafort to handle the delegate process, which he did. he was dismissed not too long after that. >> not too long after? he was brought in in may, left in august. you all know who he is because he was so central to the campaign. handling the delegate process is a big deal in terms of what got donald trump elected. and manafort wasn't dismissed after that. he was h...

And that's not all. there's also former trump campaign chairman paul manafort, a former campaign official and former campaign official rick gates under house arrest. manafort a $10 million bond. gates $5 million. they're charged with conspiracy against the u.s. and conspiracy to launder money among other related charge. both pleaded not guilty today. the white house response? >> two people who worked for the president are now under indictment. one has pleaded guilty and he promised to higher only the best people. is this an example of the best people to hire. >> look, again, this goes back to ...

Shut down cold symptoms fast with maximum strength alka seltzer plus liquid gels. he promised to hire only the best people. is this an example of the best people to hire? >> look, again, this goes back to these were activities that took place outside of the scope of the campaign. i can't comment on anything they did -- >> are these the best people to hire? >> look, the presidential hired paul manafort to handle the delegate process, which he did, and he was dismissed not too long after that. >> sarah, just to follow up on the point of hiring the best people, the top, top people. does this no...