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Opportunities to deal with that. so far, they've given it lip service but my suggestion is if they walk away from both of those resolutions and say neither one is good enough then i believe they are actively engineering a government shutdown and the puck -- applicable doesn't want it. it wants to see the government operate and see congress save money. jenna: why not stand by the $61 billion initial plan, the one that would keep the government up and running for a year, why even offer this temporary next? >> well -- fix? >> i think what we said is if the senate says they need more time and have...

The bottom of the hour. president obama called congressman stupak this week urging him not to retire. you may know this, congressman stupak is the prolife democrat who switched his vote at the 11th hour after getting abortion agreement from president obama. he brought along a whole block of votes and it pushed health care reform over the finish line. steve, when did stupak make this decision? >> we don't know everything about the tile line on this. we do know there's a regular deliberation process, we spoke yesterday with his wife, laurie stupak who said bi-annually they take a look at whether...

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We knew may was going to be a situation spiral you know to even a more violent level better month for senator santorum. obviously a calculation was made and certainly is the family getting iran to be supportive, i factored into that. give us a little inside baseball understand his diplomatic talk on sort of how the initiative. i'm very skeptical that iran is deliberation process, if you could. >> sure, we actually had several going to follow through in a conversations for weeks planning meaning full way. >> nick, i want to throw one how we could get that delegate more question to you before i ...

Take me through the deliberation process. >> after the foreperson was elected, we wanted to gauge if people were on one side or another, we started there. there were two people initially who thought definitely first degree. at the same time they did admit they felt it. and they just felt like it wasn't substantiated. they wanted to convict. but also admitted, there's not enough evidence to prove that even though i strongly believe it. it started there and went pretty much half and half, manslaughter and not guilty. that was based solely on the evidence we had to use to -- anything with any wei...