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Biggest congressional investigation a year and a half later, the house republicans had going on against you was eric holder, solyndra is off the table, it really hasn't been able to get much, his talons in much else. the white house can handle the holder thing. there are worse things that could have happened that never happened. >> fast and furious, not the hollywood blockbuster, nor a political blockbuster, as perhaps darrell issa would have wanted it. coming up, roger clemens is found not guilty of lying to congress. does that mean the government will stop paying for these kinds of trials?...

The debate. >> also, lives were lost in this, too. >> a federal agent in order to get support for gun control -- >> that is the implication of his remark and it's sort of offensive. >> it's preposterous. >> it's actively offensive. i do want to talk about a little bit dial it back to eric holder and his role. because we know just from the book "in killer capture" they talk about the difficult role, the justice department and the role of the attorney general is a strange one because you are at one serving an administration but you are not supposed to be explicitly political, and that eric holde...

Behavior in chechnyia. then the two of them managed to create a fairly productive relationship for a number of years before it kind of broke down at the end. putin is a realist, a pragmatist. he doesn't take all this stuff too seriously and acts in what he sees as his own interest, not in what america thinks is his interest. >> it is certainly a developing situation. we will be pouring over the jpegs and online screen shots of the two men meeting all day with all sorts of armchair psychoanalysis. the "new york times" peter baker, thank you for your time, sir. after the break, is marco rubio'...

Sam, you have written about contingency plans the white house may or may not be making. certainly the republicans smell blood which is why i think you have mitch mcconnell making those comments. regardless of what happens, well, actually we should discuss that. what are -- who wins if the affordable care act is struck down or the individual mandate is struck down? >> if the individual mandate is struck down, then the big loser is the insurance companies unless the other provisions are brought out of it as well, the related stuff. the idea that from talking to people on all sides of the aisle, ...